How to fix a leak in a sewer pipe in a few simple ways
None of us is immune from the situation when the question of what to do if a pipe is flowing in the bathroom or in the toilet is especially acute and requires an urgent decision. This situation may be the result of the process of deformation of pipes or their corrosion. But, if corrosion is terrible only for metal products, then deformation can threaten both polypropylene and metal-plastic pipes. What to do when water oozes from the pipe and how to fix the leak on your own without waiting for the plumber to arrive? This is what our article is about. The first step is to determine exactly the place where it flows from. If water collects under the sink or under the drain in the bathroom, then first of all you should check the quality of the connection between the drain hole and the pipe. Often, the process of tightening all the threaded connections of the pipeline or replacing the rubber gaskets at the junction allows you to solve the problem of leakage.
What to do if a water pipe breaks or if a sewer riser is clogged. How to fix a leak
How to quickly solve the problem, what to do if the pipe is leaking? Has it happened to you that just before leaving on vacation, you noticed an unpleasant fact - the pipe in the kitchen or in the bathroom, it turns out, is leaking? Dripping so slowly to himself, slowly. If water flows after shut-off taps, then it is not difficult to quickly solve the problem - close this tap and calmly go on vacation.
Therefore, the natural deterioration of the water supply and sewerage system is a rather acute problem. Conflict situations and litigation between tenants and public utilities are happening more and more often. We propose to figure out how to act if the riser in the apartment bursts, and who is responsible for causing damage to the property of the residents themselves and neighbors from below.
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What to do in such a situation
1. The place of thinning of the pipe is somewhat deepened, degreased and dried.
2. Coat this area with sealant.
3. To prevent a similar problem in the future, insulate the exhaust part of the riser.
If the smell still penetrates the apartment, then you will have to resort to more radical methods:
1. Cover the gap with “cold welding”. This is a two-component adhesive that, after hardening, is well polished. You can improve the riser well.
2. Soak gauze with epoxy and wrap around the pipe.
3. Wrap the riser with a rubber bandage and tighten it with wire.
4. Apply the patch and secure with a tie.
If the section of the sewer riser on the lower floors is damaged, then specialist advice will be required. Perhaps one repair will not be enough. More radical methods will be required to eliminate the defect on the pipe. It should be borne in mind that in this part of the sewer riser the pressure is the strongest.
Who is to blame for a leaking sewer line?
We have repeatedly touched upon issues related to the plumbing infrastructure of an apartment building. In particular, they told who owns the pipes and who pays for their maintenance.
But the topic does not lose its relevance - more and more questions are coming in: “Such a situation has arisen, the sewer riser is rotten and leaking throughout the house, as a result, it drowns us and the neighbors from below, whose apartment is insured ... they threaten to sue us. Are we the culprits of this incident, if, as far as I know, this riser is public property, or is the ZHKO to blame. And am I obliged to change the riser at my own expense, or should ZHKO pay for it?
Let's sort it out in order.
Is the sewer riser a common property?
The concept of the common property of an apartment building is given in article 36 of the Housing Code of the Russian Federation, as well as in the Rules for the maintenance of common property, approved by Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation No. 491 of August 13, 2006. Paragraph 5 of these Rules states that hot and cold water supply risers are part of the common property. And what about sewers? Last year, in accordance with Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation No. 354 of May 6, paragraph 5 of the Rules was supplemented with the following provision: branch pipes, revisions, crosses, tees), risers, plugs, exhaust pipes, drain funnels, cleaning, branches from risers to the first butt joints, as well as other equipment located in this system. Thus, sewer risers are now also classified as common property.
Who should replace the sewer line?
Since the sewer riser is a common property, the communal organization serving the house should be engaged in its maintenance and repair. We talked in detail about how to achieve a pipe replacement. In this case, the principle of action is the same. Replacing a rotten riser should fall on the "shoulders" of the housing and communal organization.
Who is to blame: the owner or the utilities?
When the apartment is flooded, an application is made to the management company, and in emergency cases - to the emergency service. Representatives of these organizations, in the presence of all interested persons and witnesses, draw up an appropriate act. This document indicates in which apartments the flood occurred, for what reason, what property was damaged, etc. The act of leakage is very important, since in fact it names who is guilty. So, if it is indicated that the flooding occurred due to rotting of the riser, the public utilities are to blame. After all, monitoring the wear and tear of plumbing equipment is their direct responsibility. If it is established that the tenants of the apartment made, for example, unauthorized replacement of equipment or caused any mechanical damage, the fault remains with the owner. In this case, we are talking about an insured apartment. Neighbors who have insured their property in case of flooding should contact the insurance company. Those, in turn, will issue an invoice for compensation for damage caused by the insured event to the guilty person.
Can they sue?
Yes. Neighbors have the right to apply to the court demanding compensation for property damage. However, if we are talking, as in this case, about the common property and the guilt of the communal organization, you should not be afraid of this. It is necessary to attract public utilities as a co-respondent and prove during the trial that the leak and, as a result, the damage, occurred through their fault.
What to do if a pipe or riser breaks in an apartment where to go, who is to blame
Such a problem: I live on the 8th floor of a 9-storey building, the neighbors from the top did not use the sewer pipe, or rather, they bought an apartment there not long ago, before that there was no one there! As it turned out, my pipe was cracked, and they drowned me for about 2 days ... because I couldn’t find them at home ... when I came back from the university, they were no longer at home. After long quarrels, they nevertheless agreed that this was their problem, so the plumbers at home told me that this was their pipe. In the end, they themselves found a person who made all the robots with cement and wrapped the pipe with a bandage, they did not want to replace the pipe! Water no longer collected in the toilet. After 5 months, a neighbor from below appears, saying that she has not been for a year, and in the toilet the walls and ceiling are crumbling, and water is still dripping.As it turned out, I had a pipe flowing just above the cross, I didn’t see it, and didn’t know about it, the neighbors made a pipe before it, they didn’t touch it ... although it was burst at the bottom, but then there was no noticeable leak.
What to do in this case? To clean the riser can be used: With a small (up to 2 - 3 meters) distance from the nearest revision to the place To begin with, measure the size of the pipe in the toilet from floor to ceiling. Please note that the old pipe should protrude from the ceiling and floor.
You practically do not pay attention to plumbing if it works smoothly. But be wary if the toilet begins to leak or make unusual sounds. And there is every reason for this, because a toilet leak is a serious thing, it can cause a lot of trouble not only to you, but also to the neighbors below. In order not to explain yourself about flooding, you need to regularly check the performance of your plumbing.
No one is protected from minor household problems and unpleasant surprises that plumbing periodically presents. In this article, we will try to figure out how and how to fix a leak in a sewer pipe. Useful: where special reliability is needed, cast-iron sewage is minted with a graphite gland. Asbestos fiber with graphite, unlike bondage, is not biodegradable and lasts for decades.
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In the article we will try to figure out why the toilet is leaking and how to fix leaks in the most common cases.
Please note: pouring hot water down the toilet is a bad idea anyway. The toilet bowl can simply crack with a sharp temperature drop, unable to withstand the internal stresses arising from local heating
Or if the rubber cuff between the toilet and the plastic sewer leaked?
Good afternoon, such a question began to accumulate abundantly condensate on the cold riser between the ceiling with the neighbors from above, everything is dry with us, it is already dripping from the ceiling, their riser is dry.
Everyone knows the situation when plumbing starts to fail, and you don’t know what to do - buy a new one or repair the old one. The most annoying thing is when the toilet is leaking. In order to take urgent action, you should find out the causes of this phenomenon. How to do this, we will tell in our instructions.
When do you need a repair and when do you need a replacement?
The sewer riser can be cast iron (in old houses) and plastic. Cast iron pipes are by far the most emergency. Imagine how many years this sewer has been standing! Naturally, the cast iron has already rusted in some places, leaked.
The plumbers don't even want to fix the cast-iron sewer. Only change! And it is right. Changed to a brand new plastic - and forgot. But the cases are different. Today there is no money for replacement, there is not enough time. While we're doing repairs. If
- a crack has formed on the pipe, and water oozes out of it;
- a leak appeared at the junction of the riser with a tee, coupling, adapter, cross;
- the sewer pipe broke or rotted in some place.
Replacement is the only salvation if the riser has fallen apart.
Repair of a sewer riser
If a leak occurs at the joints, then the plumbers who installed the system are to blame. To fix the problem, take the following steps:
1. Ask the neighbors not to use the sewer for some time.
2. Dry the joint with a rag or hair dryer. Clear it of debris, cement.
3. Firmly hammer the area between the pipes with linen winding.
4. Wet the joint thoroughly with a polymer-cement composition (building glue plus water plus cement) or sealant.
It happens that the joint in the system is sealed tightly, the solution does not fall off, but flows through a small crack in this solution. Then you just need to dry this area and cover it.
Best Answers
Yaoza:
Here! Just problems due to the sewer pipe can be! I was so sick of the neighbors from below - I fill them and fill them. I changed the water pipes at the beginning - they complain. Then the sewer line came - but they didn’t want to change their tee (the one between the floors, into which my horizontal pipes and the riser itself enter), I just changed the pipes, inserted a new one into the old sewer tee. And it turned out that it was he who flowed - there was a crack between the floors. That's where it leaked. Then they had to change this tee anyway. Of course, the water in the sewer does not constantly flow, but when the upper floors are lowered, the water flows down + the circular centrifugal movement of water inside the pipe - that's what happens. that it gets into the pipe slot.
Galina Nikitina:
After our repair, water also flowed down from us, and when our neighbors from above drained the bath. It turned out that they didn’t put some thing like a pallet in our toilet bowl .. They did it - and there are no problems.
Winds:
Water from the can. riser (for example, the junction of the channel. The outlet to the toilet can be poorly sealed, and with a high pressure of water from the bathroom or when flushing the tank) get on the ceiling of the neighbors. You must clearly describe (or take a picture) the projection of the leak ..
with a chip in the channel. riser - water can gush from the fistula onto the wall and flow down.
Romance:
the neighbors accused us more than once of drowning them, they even came from the house, I’m not saying we are dry here, which means they are dry, but bl .. . how dry if the neighbors are still dripping. I personally climbed under the bath and checked in the toilet - it's dry! I sent it to the neighbors above, but no one listened to me. They drowned us more than once and the water has already done its job, found new passages
647 acc:
That's just the problem may be in the sewer pipe! ! ! I live in a panel five-story Khrushchev building, there are 20 apartments in the entrance, our riser is adjacent to 10 apartments. In 62 apartments on the first floor, it dripped from the ceiling, we live in 67 on the second floor. The cast-iron sewer tee between floors leaked. A locksmith from the housing department changed him in three apartments at once: in ours, 66 and 62. After his replacement, everything became normal. And before that, neighbors from 62 apartments also came to us that we were drowning them, but it was dry in our place.
Are her bones dry? The fact is that water can flow from the ceilings in its ceiling, gently flowing down the risers. Did you check it? Plumbers from the housing department of yours are simply too lazy to look, there is never a consequence without a reason. Well, or a cold riser leaked in the ceiling ... That the leak is in the ceiling, this is already a 100% option.
Raffi Baghdasaryan:
Cold water, hot water and sewage pipes pass through floors in floor slabs, in cold water and hot water sleeves this is according to SNiP y. Due to the negligence of the builders, sometimes they pass without sleeves and in contact with concrete, the pipes quickly rot. If the floor slab is hollow, then water can pass through the void and seep further from the riser. As for the sewer pipes, there may be a crack in the transition through the floors, which is also the reason for flooding.
What if cast iron
Repair of the sewer riser in the apartment is possible if a small leak is detected, a slight fistula, a small crack, or a cast-iron style (coupling, adapter) has burst. Such not very dangerous damage will withstand temporary measures.
Quick Repair Methods:
1. We clean the small fistula from debris, process the edges with sandpaper. Wipe again with a cloth. Then we take a handful of cement and coat the affected area.
Cement does not need to be diluted. Take a dry solution. From the fistula, water oozes. The cement will get wet slowly. They applied a layer - the solution got wet - again a layer. Slowly, the fistula will “tighten”. Cement adheres well to cast iron - it will hold.
2. A more serious leak cannot be hidden behind cement. A large hole must be closed with a clamp. Get a clamp for the diameter of the riser. Cut a piece of rubber under it. In width, one should be equal to the width of the clamp, it can be a couple of millimeters more. In length - the diameter of the riser.
We wrap the ribbon around the pipe to check if it fits. We open the collar. We hope to stand. We tighten a little. We put a rubber gasket under it. We're trying to get her to close the fistula. And tighten the clamp to the end.
Another repair option is cold welding. But the clamp is more reliable.
There can be trouble in the sewers. Especially if the network is already old and has been serving for more than a dozen years. The most common of them are leaks of varying intensity. They can occur at the joints, through defects. Sewer line needs urgent repairs. If the damage is serious, then a replacement. Let's talk about repairs.
Defects are different. Therefore, the repair activities are also different. Sometimes a simple putty will suffice, and sometimes it will be necessary to "suture". In any case, the repair is a temporary measure. The pipe will need to be replaced soon.
Plastic sewer repair
And there are problems with plastic pipes. But they are much easier to repair than cast iron ones.
1. A leak appeared at the junction of the pipe with the coupling or adapter.
Causes of trouble:
- cheap low-quality pipes were purchased;
- bad rubber gaskets were used;
- pipes are defective.
What to do?
Repair will consist of replacing the O-ring. We disassemble the connection where the leak occurred. Remove the old rubber seal. We remove dirt from the socket, clean it, wipe it from dust. Insert a new ring. If it is one-sided, carefully watch which side you bet. We process with sealant and join.
2. A crack appeared in the riser.
The reasons are very different, from getting a sharp object into the system to external damage.
Repair order:
- remove dirt and dust from the surface of the riser;
- degrease the edges of the crack, wipe dry;
- treat with sealant.
In case of serious damage, the pipe must be replaced.
Expert answers
bell:
first to the neighbors, if everything is normal for them, then call the control room! as a rule, they say that if you wait until the morning on the riser, there is no plumbing in the evening, so in this case, call the central disp. district or immediately to the office on duty, everything will be ok right away! good luck!
Anna Thorn:
depending on which floor. Unas 5, the roof is higher, when it was being repaired, this pipe was covered up and all the condensate was sent to us (the plumbers were called, what else
hunter:
perhaps first of all to the neighbors, and there according to the situation.
holodos:
So you are simply drowned by the neighbors from above. Rather up!
Ukraine 2000:
ordinary situation. I recommend to resolve the issue with the neighbors amicably. The riser is leaking, or condensate is dripping from the cold water pipe. ZhEK is a bunch of g? ndons. You will NEVER resolve the issue with them promptly.
Unknown:
Don't go anywhere. It will flow to the neighbors from below, it will be their problem ....
EST INVEST:
I ordered a plumber and paid 15,000 for the replacement of a cold + hot riser + fan pipe + installation of meters. In short, under the full program, the replacement of everything that was iron to plastic. It is possible to get from the housing office, but it is flowing today and the problem must be solved today. Do everything at once and you will be happy.
Artur Pavlov:
The risers are the common property of the house and the tenants are not obliged to repair at their own expense! Call the emergency service.
Man:
The housing department is obliged to do this, the only thing is a piece of pipe at your expense! Isn't it realistic to put a clamp on? ? You can wrap it with a medical tourniquet, pulling it after each turn!
MERchik:
10 years home? in my Khrushchev, they even welded it, although it was owned. These include pipes, they must eliminate the leak.
Alexey Pastukhov:
If this question is so fundamental, go to the ZhEK and demand a replacement. In all conscience, I would take the initiative and replace the riser myself, now it’s not Soviet time, you will fit into the costs anyway. What if the water oozed to you?
Olga Minich:
According to the Housing Code of the Russian Federation, the repair of common property (which, incl., includes a riser), is carried out at the expense of funds for the maintenance of common property.A meeting of owners may make a different decision, but in practice these are rather isolated cases. Contact your management company with an application, get a mark on the acceptance of the application on the second copy. If they refuse, complain to the management company. You can go the other way - demand official registration of the work, indicating the reason for their implementation, and then claim the money in court. And yet - find out if the common property of the house was insured - in this case, an insurance company is involved . If your apartment is insured - excellent, call the insurer and draw up an act that this does not apply to the insured event, since the property is common. If the fistula is on your outlet from the pipe, they may recognize it as an insured event. One way or another, after involving the insurance company, it will be easier to act.
mechanic3:
15.000 for the whole riser or just for your site? (I don’t know your rates). Agree on the issue of replacing the riser at the expense of residents with public utilities, with subsequent compensation (netting) for the rent. We have such a practice. And to agree so that later the housing office does not say that you paid too much.
