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Feedback from residents of apartments on the first and last floor

Very often in advertisements for the purchase of apartments you can find such a note: "do not offer the first and last." This phrase has become so commonplace that it was once even quoted in one of Viktor Tsoi's songs.

However, is life in an apartment on the first or top floor really so unbearable that you can refuse to buy such a home without even finding out its other characteristics?

Maybe the simple habit of considering the lower and upper floors unsuitable, because "it is customary" is to blame for everything? Employees of the Stopmakler real estate portal decided to shed light on this issue by analyzing reviews from various forums and receiving first-hand information, so to speak.

What is the technical floor for?

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A modern city is thousands of high-rise buildings, which means several thousand elevators, which are used daily by millions of people. Any elevator system is expensive, difficult to maintain and far from safe. Today we will talk about what the smooth operation of the elevator depends on and who is responsible for the safety and comfort of residents using this elevator.

Sophisticated technical equipment is available in almost all new high-rise buildings. The elevator consists of a number of parts, including: the elevator car, shaft, engine room, which is located at the top of the building, as well as safety devices.

Is the technical floor residential?

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Good afternoon, my house consists of three floors, the technical floor is completely underground, there is a garage, a boiler room, a second residential and residential attic. Is the technical floor a residential area if there are no accommodation facilities?

Good day! We answer your request:

In accordance with article 16 of the Housing Code of the Russian Federation No. 188-FZ of December 29, 2004, residential premises include:

1. residential building, part of a residential building;
2. apartment, part of an apartment;
3. room.

A residential building is an individually defined building, which consists of rooms, as well as auxiliary premises designed to meet citizens' domestic and other needs associated with their living in such a building.

An apartment is a structurally separate room in an apartment building that provides direct access to the common areas in such a house and consists of one or more rooms, as well as auxiliary rooms designed to meet citizens' domestic and other needs related to their living in such a separate room.

A room is a part of a residential building or apartment intended for use as a place of direct residence of citizens in a residential building or apartment.

Accordingly, the technical floor is not a residential area.

Why there are fears when buying apartments on the top floor

Should I buy an apartment on the top floor? It is impossible to answer this question “yes” or “no” unambiguously. It is necessary to consider the features of each individual apartment. In this case, it is necessary to rely only on your own preferences and the needs of your family members. Each case has its own advantages and disadvantages. Why is the top floor bad and why do not they buy apartments on the top floor? These are the most frequently asked questions.

The last floors are considered to be "bad" according to the old Soviet habit. The large-scale construction of "Khrushchev", panel and brick nine-story buildings took place in the sixties and seventies of the last century. It was associated with the sharp growth of many industries and the need to accommodate a large number of people in cities.Within the framework of the state program, most of the buildings in which people live to this day were designed and erected in a short time. During construction, due to lack of time and money, many details were missed and side effects were not foreseen. The service life of buildings is not unlimited, and today it has become really inconvenient to live in such houses.

Worn leaking roofs, curvature of walls, uneven ceilings, cracks in foundations, clogged garbage chutes, constantly breaking elevators - all this became a common problem for almost all residents of our vast country closer to the 80s and 90s. Then the experimental construction of high-rise buildings with an improved layout of apartments began, the projects became more advanced.

A little later, along with the introduction of new technologies, revolutions in the production of building materials, the rapid development of electronics and the use of the experience of other countries, houses of a new type began to be built. Compact two- and three-entrance skyscrapers equipped with high-speed elevators for various purposes, additional premises, transitions between them, with underground garages and protected adjacent territories. New versions of housing are now being created not only for the purpose of mass settlement, but also for greater comfort, convenience and safety of a person living in not the most friendly urban environment.

Particular attention began to be paid primarily to the last floors of such buildings, and, remembering past problems, the designers found a simple and ingenious solution. This solution was the technical floors

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Naturally, you do not need to re-do repairs at your own expense. Before the housing department starts inspecting the pipes, make an assessment of the repair of the apartment and then you can demand repairs from the housing department for a similar amount, if damage is caused to your property by their actions.

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If the housing department makes demands on you to “open” the floor in your apartment, then send them to court! Only a court can oblige you to provide access to communications directly from your apartment, by damaging property, and to establish who and in what amount will have to compensate you for the damage caused.

Without a court order, you have the right not to allow anyone into the apartment.

The inviolability of the home is proclaimed by the Constitution of the Russian Federation (Article 25).

You can simply not let the housing department workers into your apartment.

As another option, calculate the cost of repairs that will be required if the floors are opened, draw up an agreement under which the housing department undertakes to pay for subsequent work on repairing the floors and sign it with the head of the housing department and certify it with the seal of the housing department. If he refuses to pee, do not let housing department workers into the house without a court decision.

If they still bother you a lot, then go to court or the police yourself.

If, against your consent, they penetrate your apartment and open the floors, then contact the investigative committee at the Prosecutor's Office of the Russian Federation at the place of residence with a statement about illegal entry into the dwelling (Article 139 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation) by employees of the housing department, in your case, signs will be seen in the actions of the employees of the housing department corpus delicti under Article 167 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (deliberate destruction or damage to another's property). During the investigation and trial in a criminal case, you will be able to file a claim for compensation for the harm caused.

Apartment above non-residential floor. Residential fraud.

Some of us are faced with a difficult choice - to take or not to take an apartment located above non-residential floors.

It’s quite difficult to put together all the information on this subject, so I’ll post here what I learned myself, after running around and studying this issue as much as possible.

I am sure that it is worth giving up than taking a "pig in a poke". Especially if the windows or balconies of this apartment overlook the grounds - the roofs of these same floors.To be honest, that's exactly what I did last winter - I refused. Decided to wait some more. I'll explain why.

Firstly:

It is unknown if these floors will ever be heated. The fact is that they are NOT on the balance sheet of the housing office serving this house. Naturally, apartment floors are heated, but these floors are not always, not immediately or badly. And no one cares about the temperature of the floor of the lowest residential floor: let your children, even in fur coats and felt boots, crawl on the floor, most likely covered with frost and, subsequently, fungus.

I mean the case when the house is under construction, that is, it seems to have already been commissioned, but the lower 2-3 floors are not known when they will be completed, when and by whom they will be redeemed. Even if you get or buy an apartment above a bank, a fashion salon, a work office - where is the guarantee that tomorrow there will not be a cold warehouse with pyrotechnics in their place, for example? (It's forbidden, but you never know.)

The floor of such an apartment can be much colder than in the apartment on the first floor, and there is definitely no place for a family with small children. Long-awaited housing can do a disservice.

Secondly:

The worst option is when there is a platform in front of the windows or doors of the balcony. It is both a continuation of the floor of the apartment and the roof of the floor below. And the larger this area, the worse. Neon light, powerful lamps, searchlights, noise of any frequency coming from fans of external air conditioner units, engines for various purposes, who knows what else can turn out to be constant companions of your life.

A limited view from the windows of his dwelling has a very bad effect on the human psyche. But they can still be partially, or even completely covered by banners, posters, and the platform itself too.

If this is your personal terrace, then no one has the right to place anything on it without your consent. But where is the guarantee that someone will not strengthen something there in your absence? Do we have the right to dump someone else's property without being responsible for its loss or damage? While you run around the authorities, they will have time to add something else. And the wall is completely common, brownie. On it, anything can be attached to any height, legal or not - this is the “tenth” question.

Thirdly:

The dirtiest prospect is garbage (plus birds, mice, cockroaches). No one will ever clean it up, but it can be different.

Fourth:

It is likely that you will have to put reliable bars on windows and balcony doors so as not to meet in your own apartment with "guests" who have come from outside; the probability of meeting eyes with a stranger outside the window is even higher.

Fifth:

It is unlikely that anyone will like the prospect of running around the authorities in defense of their rights and the eternal quarrel with the upper inhabitants of the house, throwing down something or, God forbid, someone, and the lower ones - in the case of installation and maintenance of equipment in front of your nose.

At sixth:

Depending on what the roof is covered with, the opportunity to breathe fresh air from its heat in the summer heat may be absent, especially for those whose apartments are closest.

And the last:

It is possible to sell such housing, but for a very, very low price, and it is not known when. But the probability of getting into a "psychiatric hospital" is very high.

Conclusion:

Brick up windows and doors. In other words, completely isolated from the outside world. But the question is: will it be an apartment?

First floor of a residential building

Let's start with the cons, because there are many more, as it turned out. Many of them are solvable in modern conditions, but still make you think.

Cons of an apartment on the first floor

Noise
It is unlikely that you like to listen to the conversations of grandmothers on a bench or the cries of children on the playground. Not? Then you have to keep the window permanently closed. If the windows overlook the courtyard, you can find out all the local gossip, listen to midnight conversations at the entrance and fully enjoy the children's games. And if the windows overlook the road, add also the noise of cars.
Closed windows save, but you can’t close them tightly for the whole year.Although this problem is not critical, it can be solved with the help of good windows and home ventilators.

However, a lot of money will have to be invested in it.

Safety
It is believed that apartments on the first floor are at the greatest risk, considering the burglars. The ground floor is easy to break into, making these apartments a prime target for thieves.

You can improve the situation by installing a grill. However, this takes away some of the comfort in the apartment, and it creates the feeling that you are in prison.
Do not forget about protective glasses and alarms, they will help keep everything of value safe. But, again, this is an extra expense, and there is no one hundred percent guarantee.

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Dirt
Dust, exhaust gases from cars, pollen from flowers - all this is sent to the apartment. So cleaning will be a couple of times more. In addition, the windows will be much dirtier than those of those who live higher up.

Basement
This problem may not be obvious, but will show up over time. Firstly, the floors in the ground floor apartment can be cold in winter due to the basement. This can be solved with underfloor heating or dense flooring, but that's not all.
Second, bad smell. It depends on the house, of course. If the basement is repaired, then there will be no problems, but there is no way to be 100% sure. An unpleasant smell can be heard from the old basement. And from there, uninvited guests like rats, cockroaches and other living creatures can come.

Mold
As for me, the most terrible lack of apartments on the first floor. Dampness always comes from the basement, and if mold has grown there, then it will definitely be in your apartment. It can be fought, of course, but often it is an unequal struggle if the root cause is not eliminated. The only solution here is to renovate the basement. But this will require the consent of neighbors and considerable investment.

All life is theater
On the first floor, it is difficult to hide from prying eyes that constantly look through the windows, trying to find out what is happening there. New buildings are saved from this, their first floor is built much higher than eye level, but this does not apply to old houses. You can, of course, curtain the windows and never open them, but this is not the best way out.

Now, perhaps, to the pluses, although they are just few.

Advantages of a ground floor apartment

1. Price
   Due to all the above drawbacks, prices for apartments on the first floor are significantly reduced. Low cost is often key for those on a tight budget. There is a chance to profitably save or invest all the money saved in eliminating the disadvantages of the apartment.

2. Convenience
   Just a couple of steps and you are at home. No need to ride the elevator, and if it's broken, you won't have to climb to the upper floors. It is convenient for mothers with strollers, cyclists, and also for the elderly.

3. Neighbours
   No downstairs neighbors. This is a significant plus, in fact, you don’t have to worry that the neighbor will come to scandal because the children run too noisily or the dog knocks too hard on the floor with its paws. And there are no constant worries about the fact that you can flood the neighbors.

So is it worth it? It's hard to say for sure. There are pluses and minuses, although there are more minuses and they are more significant. Before buying an apartment, it is worth checking many nuances that will complicate life in the future. We have described where there may be difficulties, it remains for you to carefully check everything and make a decision!

The apartment was purchased, now it remains to equip it. See how you can make a wonderful and cozy apartment out of a dead Khrushchev. Sometimes a small redevelopment and arrangement of an apartment changes it completely. And in general, with the help of repair and modern technologies, many problems that residents of high-rise buildings face can be solved.

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We draw up documents

To attach a balcony, you have to collect papers. Photo: 918747.ru

The most important thing in the extension of the balcony is to correctly draw up all the documents. We will need:

- Plan of the first floor of the house with a certificate from the BTI

- Consent of neighbors on the right, left and top

— Balcony project in compliance with SNIPs. It will have to be ordered from a private company.

- Permission from housing and communal services

- Permission from public utilities

– Permission from the architectural department

When we have collected all the documents, we go to the administration. There, if all the documents are in order, the extension project will be approved.

Running around the authorities is expensive, but it's worth it. Photo: xn--8sblmeibygbc.xn--p1ai

Minuses

Of course they also exist. True, much of this list applies to all apartments located above the third floor.

• In the absence or disconnection of the elevator, you must climb on foot. For a family with young children and elderly relatives, such apartments are not the most convenient option. A child in your arms, a large stroller, a bulky bike, heavy bags can be a serious test of strength.
• The problem may be the lifting of large-sized furniture and household appliances. Staircases in old houses are very narrow and porters are expensive.
• In prefabricated houses, the vibration and noise of a running elevator motor can be quite annoying at night. In brick, there is a little less noise, but it is also there. Such apartments are contraindicated for people sensitive to sounds. After some time, there is a risk of sleep disturbance, the occurrence of neuroses and other diseases associated with these diseases.
• There is always the possibility of a roof leaking in the off-season. Even if the repair was made quite recently, it is not a fact that everything was done with high quality.
• In winter, you will have to independently clean the visor of the balcony from snow and icicles. According to the current legislation, this obligation is assigned to the owners of residential premises. And there's nothing to be done, you have to negotiate with the owners of cars standing under the windows, look for assistants who can stand below to warn passers-by, and resolve the issue of temporarily fencing a potentially dangerous place for snow to melt.
• Also, the appearance of uninvited guests is not ruled out. Technical workers and emergency teams often turn to the residents of the first and last floors for water, keys to basements and attics, to access the starting elements of heating and sewage systems.
• Low-flying helicopters and aircraft can regularly cause a lot of trouble in areas close to specialized military units and airports.
• Well, to everything else, there is a risk of developing a fear of heights. It is quite small, but it should not be completely ruled out. Especially if you or someone in your family has a disrupted vestibular apparatus.

We build a hanging balcony

Consider the option of adding a suspended balcony with your own hands. There are several reasons for this:

- no need to mess with the design of the land

– foundation construction and masonry requires special building knowledge

– suspended balcony is built much faster

The basis of the design is the brackets on which the extension will stand. Photo: balkon4life.ru

We fasten to the wall what the extension will hold on to. These will be massive metal corners attached to the wall with anchor bolts.

Next, we cook the balcony itself:

A metal frame is placed on the base. Photo: www.remontnik.ru

Next, we solve the issue with the roof. If we attach a balcony under the neighbor's, we make the frame all the way and skip this step. If there is no neighboring balcony, we make an ordinary roof from a profiled sheet.

The floor is made of wood. We sheathe it with siding and insulate it inside with foam plastic if you need a warm balcony. We insert windows and get the following result:

Making a hanging balcony is quite simple. Photo: i9.photo.2gis.com