Residents of the lower floors will increase the payment for heating
Owners of apartments located on floors from the first to the fourth will pay more for heating. The authorities plan to introduce a new standard, according to which the cost of heat supply will depend on the number of floors. The increase in tariffs will be especially significant for owners of apartments located from the first floor to the fourth. As Boris Gladkikh, a member of the State Duma Committee on Energy, said, the change should come into force as early as 2020. The implementation of the initiative was supposed to take place three years ago, however, the Ministry of Construction achieved a delay, writes Parlamentskaya Gazeta. According to the deputy, the issue should be referred to the regional authorities so that they decide how expedient it is to change tariffs.
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Then I ask the deputies to introduce a standard according to which the cost of heat supply to their apartment or place of residence will depend on their income.
For example, a deputy earns 45 million rubles a month - 9 million for heating, please pay.
He doesn't earn. He has a talented wife and children.
It is always colder on the first floors, that they will be heated more strongly by some kind of mokar (of course not), it turns out that people who have a colder house will be obliged to pay “significantly more” than those who have warmer?! How the fuck does that work, what the fuck is the point?!
Well, they think so. hot water for heating, rises from below, heats the first floors, cools down, reaches the upper floors, goes down and runs into the boiler room. The process is repeated. consequently, the first floors receive all the heat at once, and the upper ones as the other floors warm up.
The funny thing is that now in many houses hot water goes from top to bottom.
filling can be either top or bottom)
Maybe I don't argue. I just expressed an idea, as those who write such innovations think
I live on the 21st floor and my batteries are an order of magnitude colder than those of the neighbors below. I don't know why, but it's a fact.
“An order of magnitude” is 10 (ten) times.
Are you still confident in your words?
Maybe he formulated it incorrectly, but the temperature of the neighbors from below is noticeably higher during the heating period, we, upstairs, sometimes have such a dubak that we walk in sweaters and warm socks.
Did you check the apartment with a thermal imager?
A specialist with a device can be inexpensively called in to draw up a heat map of the room - you can immediately see where the leaks are. where the wall is under-insulated, where the hidden temperature bridge hid.
This is not about the temperature of the radiators themselves, of course.
At the entrance of many so. There were problems due to external seams, but then climbers were called, everything was patched up, it did not help. We thought a double-glazed window, went to Leroy, bought everything with which to glue the windows, it did not help. The pipes leading to the battery are sometimes barely warm, while at the neighbors, if you take a riser (or whatever this pipe is called that goes to the battery) and hold your hand a little, it becomes noticeable heat. Noticable without instruments.
Thank you dear, so that we do without such authorities ..
And on what basis? And how many floors should the house be? Or will it also be in five-story buildings?
Yes, they just can’t get fat in any way, they are looking for ways to rip off the population.
Stupid populist statement. Such differentiated changes are 100% based on something, on some kind of research. Painfully clear and unexpected changes. We would like to rip off, stupidly all 10 pieces of heating would be done. The only question is why the article was silent about the grounds? Hype? Srach? Throw? The source is frankly the same.
Try to think first, not emotionally.
what to think about? About the fact that unbalancing the heating system in an apartment building is the concern of the management company, and not the residents of the lower floors?
That is, the fact is that on the lower floors more heat is received from the heating system? If so, then of course nonsense.They themselves suffer from this: who opens the windows, who puts thermostats on the pipes. Rather, on the contrary, it is necessary to take less from the upper floors. To them additional expenses have to be borne in case of heating by own means.
more heat is received by those floors that are closer to the supply line - depending on the type of "bottling", if the coolant is supplied from the bottom up - warmer lower, if from top to bottom - upper. But with normal balancing of the system, these differences are insignificant, and all floors are heated evenly.
So even this does not explain the logic of the voiced proposal)
Although, I tried to search, and I did not find any projects of heat consumption standards that would take into account the number of floors when calculating tariffs in one house, only different coefficients for houses of different heights - that is, 4-5-story buildings will pay more for them than 10-story houses, and no different rates for apartments in the same building. So, there were suspicions that the journalist was raped somewhere again) Although, maybe he was looking badly.
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Difference for low and multi-family buildings
The need for thermal energy in a high-rise building is less than in a low-rise one. Warm air rises up through the heating system, gradually warming up all floors and lingers longer in a multi-storey building. The lower the structure, the faster the heat escapes. In this regard, the standards will be revised upwards for 1-storey, 2-storey, three-storey houses.
The decision to differentiate payments by number of floors and type of house is considered by the Ministry of Construction, taking into account the impact on the amount of payment for a Russian. Since the increase in payments is limited by the established indices, it will not be significant. Proper implementation of new regulations and rules will avoid losses for individual residents and utilities.
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Changing the standard as it depends on the number of storeys
From 2020, the government will introduce new rules for paying for heating. According to them, the heating tariff will take into account the number of storeys of the building in which the apartment is located (how will the payment for heating change from 2020?). Find out from the text why the lower floors pay more for heat and other nuances.
What does floor payment mean?
The new standards will be different for different premises, depending on their location, since the energy costs for heating them depend on several factors. Thus, the heating of a 24-storey building in terms of one apartment turns out to be cheaper than, say, a 3-storey building.
Floor-by-floor calculation of payment means the dependence of the heating tariff on the number of storeys of the house, the fewer floors in the MKD, the more expensive it is to heat it. The material from which the walls are built, the age of the house and the climatic zone in which the housing is located are also taken into account.
7 reasons why batteries are cold
The heating season in Novosibirsk has begun. So why are the batteries still cold or slightly warm if the heating in your house has already been turned on according to the schedule? Primarily it is worth calling the management company, because it has up-to-date information on the state of communications inside the house. V In this article, we talk about 7 reasons for low temperature in batteries. And figure out who is responsible for each of the causes: SGC orhouse management company?
Reason 1. Low water pressure in the pipes
If you have slightly warm batteries, check with your neighbors first. During the renovation, they could increase the number of radiators or connect underfloor heating. And do not inform the management company (MC) about this. The CHP plant supplies water for heating at the same temperature in the required volume to each house. Innovations of neighbors can absorb a larger volume of coolant. This reduces the pressure in the batteries of other apartments.
To understand the causes of low battery temperatures, you need to contact first of all management company (UK). The UK specialists will check the temperature and pressure of the water at the inlet and outlet of the house. In case of deviation from the standards, the reason will be clarified. If necessary, they will call the thermal inspector of the SGC, who will fix the problem.
Reason 2. Clogging of the heating system
If the pipeline is not checked and cleaned in time, scale or deposits of slime and dirt may form inside. This will make it difficult for hot water to circulate inside the batteries and impair their heat dissipation.
Reason 3. Air lock in the house heating system
A plug will appear if the water in the heating system of the house is started abruptly or air is not released at the upper points of the heating system (on the top floor or attic). The more different turns and bends in the pipes inside the house, the slower you need to start the water.
Reason 4. Repair of pipes inside the house
Despite the planned cleaning and replacement of pipeline sections, gusts are possible. The management company needs time to eliminate them. In such a situation, the supply of heat and/or hot water to the apartments may be interrupted.
Reason 5. Closed valves
If there is a lack of hot water and heat in several entrances or the whole house, it is likely that the valves are closed. They regulate the supply of hot and cold water to the house. They are closed only in case of repair of the heating system or at the request of the management company. And they don't always open on time.
In this case, you need to make sure how many residents are sitting without heating (floor, entrance, house). Gate valves, like pipes inside the house, are in area of responsibility.
If the valves are open and there is no heating in the whole house, you need to call control room of the heating network division of SGK in Novosibirsk by phone: 8 (383) 289-01-45 or 8 (383) 289-01-47.
The specialist will inform you about the condition of the pipeline that is connected to your home, possible accidents, the duration of the outage and further actions.
Reason 6. Emergency repair of the heating network
Emergency repair of heating networks = shutdowns for 1–20 hours. This is the amount of time it takes to fix a defect or rupture in a pipeline.
The control room of the heating network division receives a signal about the accident. SGC specialists evaluate its scale and decide on the date and duration of the outage.
They isolate the damaged area from both sides - they drain the water and close the valves of the thermal chambers. If the defect in the pipeline is serious and there is a danger of defrosting the heating system of the house, they feed the heating system of the house from the backup circuit or return pipeline. The next step is to carry out the repairs.
Reason 7. Reversal of the heating system
First, the heat goes to gardens, schools, universities and hospitals. Then - to residential buildings. The heating system inside the house is filled gradually, that is, the temperature of the batteries in the whole house will reach the same temperature within 1-3 days from the moment the heat is supplied. It depends on the number of floors and apartments in the house, as well as on the distance from the CHP or boiler house.
In this case, it is worth observing the temperature in the batteries for a couple of hours. If it gradually grows, you should just wait until the system is completely filled.
If the temperature does not change, call management company. She will report on the state of communications inside the house and check them.
How can we help if the pipes inside the house are in order:
1. Check the condition of the equipment and pipes inside the CHP. After all, in the Central heating point there is a water cycle from the CHP to the house.
2. Check the mode of heat consumption according to metering devices, as well as the operation of the thermal unit.
And issue an order to the management company. If it cannot fix the problems, specialists from the Novosibirsk heating network division of SGK are involved.
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How does the different height of the apartment affect the flow rate of the coolant
Consider why payment depends on the floor and why heating on the first (lower) floors is more expensive than on the last and other nuances of consumption:
- The regulatory documents stipulate the parameters that central heating should provide. To achieve them, a certain difference in fluid pressure in the pipes between the upper and lower floors must be ensured. With each meter of water rise, the pressure drops, so the amount of water pressure, and hence the amount of heat, depends on the floor.
- The coolant flow rate also depends on the temperature difference at the inlet and outlet of the system. The higher the house, the greater this difference, respectively, and the expense also increases.
