A few questions about the wall hung toilet
And that's not to mention the fact that cleaning in the bathroom, equipped with a hanging toilet, will be much easier.
But many potential buyers do not cease to worry about the maximum load on the hanging toilet.
It is believed among the people that people with a decent weight are almost forbidden to use such a toilet bowl - there will be trouble. But all this, in fact, is just a myth. High-quality hanging toilet can withstand loads up to 400 kg. You probably don't have many friends who have at least half that weight.
Problems that can arise with a wall-hung toilet lie in the wrong installation installation. The very design of the frame on which the toilet is suspended is simple. In fact, the bowl is held by two pins mounted in the frame. Each of them can withstand a weight of 200 kg. The frame itself is attached at four points, two of which are on the wall, two more - in the floor. If the installation system is fixed professionally, according to all the rules, then nothing will happen to the toilet. Accordingly, all concerns about excessive load on the hanging toilet are not justified, provided that the structure is correctly installed.
The material was prepared by Plumbing Online. 12/19/2014
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What to look for when choosing
Installations under the toilet bowl are sold both as a set with a bowl and separately. It's easier, of course, to buy everything in the kit. Then all sizes will exactly match. If you already have a bowl, you will need to look at the dimensions of the frame and the distance between the fasteners - it must match the mounting holes in the toilet.
It is very useful if the frame has the ability to adjust in height - you can set the bowl to the level you need
Pay attention also to the type of coloring. The best option is powder coating
It is reliable, creates a tough durable film that adheres well to metal. All other types of paint hold up worse.
Installation dimensions Grohe Rapid Sl (Germany)
When choosing an installation for the toilet, you should pay attention to the package. Usually, fastening elements come with the frame - for hanging the toilet bowl, fittings for fixing sewer and water pipes
Some firms also include a tank and a drain button in the basic package. Drain, by the way, can be dual-mode. It is more economical, because when you press a large button, 6-9 liters are drained, a small one - only 3-4 liters of water. It is good if the drain is adjustable - the volume of flushed water can be adjusted to the specific shape of the toilet bowl.
Which type is better?
Which of the types of installations under the toilet and bidet is better? A frame structure is considered more reliable - it usually uses thicker metal, but it also costs more.
In any case, when choosing a frame for a hanging toilet, pay attention to the strength of the structure - it should not stagger, its elements should not sag. Inspect the welds and the quality of the paint - there should not be even small flaws
And a little about the manufacturers. The best toilet installations are made in Germany and Italy. But their plumbing is expensive. Equipment for bathrooms and toilets is no worse in quality in the Czech Republic and Bulgaria, and the price range for their products is average. The cheapest installations and hanging toilets are Chinese, but it is risky to mess with them - they can work fine, or they can quickly fail.
Wealth of choice
oval, round,
rectangular - no matter how many forms of hanging toilets designers come up with.
In order to roughly represent the variety of models, we must multiply
the number of forms for the number of colors and shades, and there are also toilet bowls with
drawings. In addition, toilet bowls of different sizes are produced, there are even small ones.
children's models.
Or another direction
expansion of the range - high-tech innovations. Toilet bowl with built-in
the bidet is a thing of the past. Now models with built-in thermometers and clocks are not uncommon. A
for wealthy clients, special computer programs will indicate the presence of
urine protein or anything else of that kind.
How to choose a toilet installation
Design
First of all, you need to get acquainted with the design of the suspension system.
Almost all models are attached to the back wall, it is important to pay attention to this aspect. Some models do not have floor support due to the lack of legs (block system)
Such installations are not recommended for heavy people, and the strength of the wall should not be in doubt.
Installation.
To avoid difficulties with installation, you should take into account the features of the supply of communications
On sale you can find standard designs that are suitable for apartments and most houses. Integrated systems are designed for office buildings, retail facilities, industrial premises, etc. Toilet bowls can be located both next to and on opposite sides of one wall.
Service.
You should not make the final choice on the aesthetics of the controls. It is necessary to make sure that it will be possible to service plumbing units through the service window.
Buttons.
The drain button often becomes a deterrent when buying. Dual-mode systems have already been replaced by non-contact models, as well as flush-stop designs. Proximity buttons look stylish and modern, but the traditional two-mode option has maximum reliability.
Price.
You can save a lot of money when buying a complete installation. Standard kit includes base frame, cistern, controls, sound deadening, adapters and hardware.
Reviews.
A lot of useful information about the performance of the installation can be found on thematic forums. It is here that system problems in a particular model are most often detected.
Advantages and disadvantages of hanging toilets
advantages over
floor-mounted toilets in a row, here they are.
- 1. Few
the fact that wall-hung toilets fit into any interior, not least
a variety of colors and shapes play a role in this. They can be created at all
unusual interior, hanging the toilet in the corner. With a simple toilet to do it
impossible. - 2. Tank
located behind the wall, that is, does not take up space - 3. On
the floor of the toilet room can be tiled with any ornament, as there is no
protruding and interfering toilet bowl. - 4. In
the bathroom saves a lot of space. - 5. When
cleaning is not difficult (even in the most inconvenient place - for
toilet). - 6. Construction
support any conceivable human weight.
There are also disadvantages, but they do not concern functional
design possibilities.
- - price
much higher than the floor. - - himself
unmistakably make markings, it is almost impossible to insert bolts and studs,
you need to call the professionals.
All this splendor began three decades ago in the USA
(pragmatic Americans tried to install in the toilets of public institutions
as many seats as possible). Now manufacturers of different
countries produce wall-mounted toilet bowls and installations for them, including on
post-Soviet space. But, if you need a really high-quality model, then
you need to take German or Italian, as these are real brands.
Common myths
Myth #1
The design is not able to withstand a person, especially an obese one - under him it will simply fall apart. Because of this, obese people should not use the wall-hung toilet all the time.
Any installation can withstand up to 400 kg
Refutation. Reliability is guaranteed by a frame made of steel. In addition, it is attached to the wall, which will not allow the structure to collapse.Plumbing manufacturers claim that such a toilet can withstand a weight of 200 to 400 kg. And some vouch for 800 kg. Even ordinary floor hygiene items do not have such parameters.
Myth #2.
Since the entire mechanism is hidden inside the installation, in case of repair or replacement of some element, it will be necessary to break the wall.
Refutation. Manufacturers specially make a built-in tank from heavy-duty plastic. It lasts a very long time, and most likely it will not be necessary to replace it throughout the entire life of the toilet. Repair can only be required by herself, and access to it is easy by removing the panel with the button for flushing. By shutting off the water, you can get the "stuffing" - a mechanism with a float, a shut-off valve - and, if necessary, adjust or replace them.
Access to the drain system
Also, the tap itself, with which the water supply is stopped, is not quite usual. It has an atypical thread, and it is attached using a plastic part that is easy to unscrew. In the event of a malfunction, the tap can be removed or even left open. Water in such a situation is blocked from the outside.
Myth #3.
If something breaks, then getting the right part will be extremely difficult.
Refutation. Units are initially equipped with everything you need. For them, as well as for other models, a variety of spare parts are on sale. In addition, the buyer chooses the button for the tank himself. Therefore, he may ask in advance how problematic it will be to get its analogue.
Myth number 4.
Installation requires a lot of space, because you still need to build a false wall, and it takes additional centimeters of area.
The system is quite reliable and rarely needs to be repaired.
Refutation. The hanging hygiene item, unlike the floor one, is located close to the wall. The place that the tank usually occupies is reserved for installation. If you install it in, you can even save a little space.
Myth number 5.
They cost more than any other. Refutation. If we compare inexpensive models of ordinary hygiene items and designs with an installation, the advantage will certainly be with the former. However, if we are talking about toilet bowls of the same quality, then both wall-mounted and floor-standing ones are approximately in the same price category. Most of all, the installation itself affects the cost. It can be purchased separately. And often customers of plumbing stores choose a toilet bowl from one manufacturer, and an installation from another. Therefore, the final cost of a complete set depends on the personal preferences of each buyer.
Design features
Seeing a hanging toilet, a rare visitor to a plumbing store will not be puzzled by the question: how does the structure hold up, what ensures its strength? After all, the toilet bowl does not have the usual legs. Fasteners that guarantee reliability are also not visible on the surface.
Wall hung toilet
The installation gives stability - a massive steel frame, which is often sold separately from the toilet. It can be attached only to the wall or additionally to the floor. From above it is covered with a plasterboard false wall, and the illusion is created that the plumbing fixture really does not rest on anything.
Since the drain tank, along with all communications, is hidden behind drywall, most often the structure is placed in the niche of the bathroom, where the water pipes and. If you choose another place, then keep in mind that you still need to make a recess of 20-25 cm in the wall to accommodate the tank. It has 4 attachment points, 2 of them on the floor, which allows you to set the desired height. The tank itself is made of plastic, not ceramic, as usual. Access to it is possible through a panel with a button located above the bowl. Through it, you can turn off the water or make minor repairs.
Installation of several installations in the bathroom
The bowl of such a toilet bowl is the only thing that can be seen from the whole structure, so its choice must be approached especially carefully. Design developments allow you to choose:
- color - from classic white to acid or iridescent shades;
- shape - from round and oval to rectangular and other, more complex modifications;
- material - from ceramics and steel to plastic, polymer concrete and glass.
Advice. From a practical point of view, plastic is not very convenient: it is easily scratched. Polymer concrete does not perceive cleaning by all means. When choosing between faience and porcelain, give preference to the latter. Thanks to the smoother surface, it needs to be cleaned much less often.
Installing a wall hung toilet
In another way, she
called an installation. Also, the installation is called the entire fastening
design for hanging toilets. It is very simple, but this makes it less
does not become reliable. There are few fasteners themselves, but they are powerful.
The design is a steel frame, on which
flush tank installed. Since in houses of different layouts, the sizes of the toilet
rooms differ from each other, to facilitate installation in the frame are provided
retractable rods. The easiest way to mount such a toilet in a wall or in a niche in
wall, then the frame can be lightened, in other cases it must be
more powerful and massive, but even such a bulky structure is sewn up with a panel or
laid with tiles. The structure is attached only to the main walls,
partitions are not suitable for this. The drain tank is made of special polyethylene,
durable and does not collect condensate from the outside.
It turns out that the tank has 4 points for attachment. Two of them
are the legs of the structure and are attached to the floor. They adjust the height
tank placement. And it should be placed so that the sewer tee
the riser was docked with the drain hole of the tank. And only after their adjustment and
connections the tank is attached to the wall. Next, panels are installed: you can from
drywall, it is possible from other materials that can even be covered with tiles
(but this will add work in making holes in the tiles as well, so you can
was to fix the toilet bowl).
The toilet itself is attached to the tank through the adapters available in
kit. Having screwed the toilet to the wall with nuts, it is necessary to connect it to the drain button
two cables located inside the tank (for a large and a small drain). Installation
ends with the drain button snapping into place. That is, no tanks and
steel structures will not be visible, the toilet will seem to come out of the wall.
Is the toilet stuck to the wall reliable?
Certainly yes. It's all about the mounting frame. If the wall
capital, then the tank can be attached directly to it. If you need to attach to
partition or drywall with fragile tiles, then the tank is attached to the frame, and the frame
fastened to the floor, transferring most of the force to it. Therefore, if
the toilet bowl has no defects and will not fall apart due to any microcrack,
nothing threatens the user of this delicate device, because the toilet vase
hung on studs screwed into the installation (that is, into this frame
construction). Calculations give the following figures: the mass of the user of the wall-hung toilet
could be around
200
kilograms
, maximum -
400 kilograms
.
Such giants, perhaps, you will not meet in a lifetime.
Fear of breaking that part of the equipment that is hidden
into the wall, there should not be: there is nothing to break, except for the drain. And it's easy before
get there
through the hole under the button
plum.