Can I fix the source of the problem myself?
In the event of a lengthy correspondence, squabbling with the management company or controlling organizations, the tenants decide to get rid of the problem on their own
But in this case, you need to act responsibly, carefully, competently.
Any work related to the engineering systems of an apartment building should be carried out by professionals.
If the responsible persons are in no hurry to carry out work to eliminate the stench, and it is no longer possible to endure inconvenience, the safest option is to invite the masters of a private company in the corresponding line of business.
Her services will be paid, but it will still be possible to quickly eliminate the fort of living in the house with a disk.
Clogged sewer causes, emergency measures, maintenance
The work is carried out in several stages. First, all drain holes in the apartment are closed. Then a plunger is inserted into the toilet drain, suction cup down. The next step is to fill the toilet with water (up to 5 liters)
Then you need to push the plunger up and down, performing rotational movements with the handle. ATTENTION! Before cleaning procedures, it is recommended to pour up to 5 liters of hot water into the toilet bowl, it will soften the paper, food waste that clogs the pipe
The cleaning rules are not complicated, it is only important to complete the process on time, without bringing the situation to a critical point. Mechanical cleaning is an effective method, as is chemical
Experts in the plumbing service industry advise pouring a quality cleaning agent into the toilet every few months. In this case, sewage problems will occur very rarely.
Mechanical cleaning is an effective method, as is chemical cleaning.
Experts in the plumbing service industry advise pouring a quality cleaning agent into the toilet every few months. In this case, sewage problems will occur very rarely.
Sewer blockage in an apartment building who is to blame, what to do and where to call
Some break through the pipe in the basement. As a result, all the dirt and feces get there, and the smell will be carried not only to those living on the ground floor, but also to other residents of the house. In the summer, such fumes are hazardous to human health. What is the cause of basement sewer blockage? Who is to be blamed for this situation? You can safely answer that all residents who carelessly treat the sewer system, throwing various garbage of considerable size into it, are involved.
Sometimes things get into the sewer that it's hard to even believe it. For example, they somehow found children's toys, rags, watermelon peels, chicken bones, women's pads, plastic bags. It has been observed that blockages occur 50% more often in summer than in winter.
This is due to the appearance of fresh fruits and vegetables.
The sewerage in the apartment is constantly clogged,
- 10/09/2011 22:52 #4 Alexander Georgievich, AlexanderAn, thanks for the answers. Please specify what actions the “management company” should take when the yard sewer is clogged. housing inspection, in extreme cases, to the court (all the same, 11 blockages since the beginning of the year)? The management company declares that the maximum “good” that it can do for us, in the event of a blockage in the yard sewer, is to drain the sewer into the basement so that the apartments of the first floors. The problem of water disposal is divided into two parts: the area of responsibility of the management company (within the house), and then the area of responsibility of "communal systems"? Reply with quote
- 10/10/2011 00:52 #5 Message from the consumer + what actions should be taken by the "management company" in case of blockage of the yard sewer.
of the Rules Managing organizations and persons providing services and performing work under the direct management of an apartment building are liable to the owners of the premises for violation of their obligations and are responsible for the proper maintenance of common property in accordance with the legislation of the Russian Federation and the contract; - in accordance with paragraph 4.1.15 Decree of the Gosstroy of the Russian Federation of September 27, 2003 N 170 “On approval of the Rules and norms for the technical operation of the housing stock” Flooding of basements and technical subfields is not allowed due to malfunctions and leaks from engineering equipment. At that time, the basement was not flooded, but the soil was soaked dampness, there was a vile smell, in some places the sandy floor in areas up to several square meters was covered with a thick layer of swarming worms. However, you have to work. At that time, we were no longer beginners - the quality of plumbing installed by our masters significantly exceeded the average level in the country. However, there certainly wasn’t such an experience as now, they didn’t really delve into the theory either - they tried to do the job a little better than others, and this suited us (as well as clients) quite well.
A few days later, the basement was unrecognizable - everything was clean and tidy, the unpleasant smell was gone, new communications were laid. And as soon as we finished laying the sewer, another emergency blockage occurred (later it turned out that one of the residents pushed a hefty plastic bag into the toilet, and it is more than likely that this was done on purpose).
Cleaning the sewer in a private house with a plunger
This is one of the simplest and most commonly used ways to clean the sewers in a private house.
It doesn't matter how old the device is. Plungers work properly, both old and new
After removing all the filtering and debris-stopping dampers, you can start cleaning the sewer pipes in a private house. The first thing to do is to plug the hole under the tap with a special plug.
Sewer cleaning scheme with a plunger and a mechanical cable
The second hole, where the wastewater is directly drained, must be covered with a plunger and filled with water into the sink. The level is above the plate (gum) of the plunger. Having pressed several times on the handrail of the plunger, it is necessary to create a vacuum that moves the water through the pipe.
The vacuum, acting on the debris and dirt accumulated in the sewer pipes, will push all the waste and help the sewage move through the pipe. But this will only happen if the blockages are minor. Several vacuum movements need to be done. If the water began to drain into the pipe in a normal stream, then the blockage and its cause have been eliminated. Otherwise, the following methods can be applied.
Cleaning sewers in a private house by chemical means
This method will tell you how to clean the sewer using chemicals. To do this, you need to buy means for cleaning the sewer. All these funds, of which there is a huge mass, are freely available. It will not be difficult to buy them in any specialized store. These are various gels, liquids, granules, powders. But they differ in that they contain a large amount of caustic soda, which perfectly and quickly breaks down not only fats, but also small pieces of garbage.
Scheme for cleaning sewers with chemicals
The use of liquid substances will greatly speed up the sewer cleaning process, because the liquid spreads through the pipes faster and envelops and then breaks down the debris. Bulk mixtures only partially fall on fatty plaques in the pipe. Therefore, they are not as effective as liquid products.
It does not matter who produced the goods, because the production of caustic soda is established in any country on the planet
One has only to pay attention to which pipes can be cleaned with this drug.
For plastic and metal pipes, different types of mixtures and liquids are suitable. The different price of these drugs does not matter. The amount of caustic soda is the same everywhere. The use of these tools requires certain safety precautions.
Cleaning the sewer should take place only in a respirator and rubber gloves. Contact with exposed skin can cause thermal burns, therefore, in order to avoid injury, safety measures must be observed. It should be noted that these funds are used not only in a critical case, when the elimination of blockage is already mandatory, but also for preventive actions. Using these tools at least once a week, you can completely prevent the appearance of plaque in the pipes and not think about how to clean the sewer.
Sewer leak in basement
For residents of the house, it is important that the toilet works properly, that water from the bathtub or washing machine drains quickly and without leaks. If the riser is clogged, the pipe in the apartment will quickly show the first signs of a problem
- Living in the house will feel an unpleasant, pungent smell in the toilet room. This will indicate problems with the patency of the riser.
- The fact that the toilet is clogged, the hydraulic shutter does not work well, will tell muddy water remaining in the toilet after draining.
- Inside the drain pipe connected to the toilet, there may be an airlock or accumulation of fecal deposits.
In this case, the water from the tank will pass into the drain very slowly.
ATTENTION! When the sewer is clogged, you can’t expect the blockage to go away on its own. Accumulation in the pipe will only increase, which will eventually lead to flooding of your apartment and the premises under it
The sewer is constantly clogged in the basement
Fixed these plugs. Then the joints of the connections of new plastic and old cast-iron pipes on the risers flowed. Eliminated. And then the water reached the toilets of the first floors and poured into the apartments. However, much did not leak out - an emergency gang arrived, the package was pulled out by a cable from the side of the well, the blockage was eliminated.
So it turns out that the tenants were right and it is impossible to build a store in this building? It would seem that everything is so. But! Thanks to this blockage, the basement sewer system was assembled ABSOLUTELY TIGHT. It was pressed, checked and entered the self-cleaning mode.
The sewer is constantly clogged.
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Hello. You here are "Mole" advise. And they themselves tried to use it with a clogged sewer. It is suitable for prevention, but not for breaking through persistent blockages.
TS, don't listen. Mole here only harm!
Hello. You here are "Mole" advise. And they themselves tried to use it with a clogged sewer. It is suitable for prevention, but not for breaking through persistent blockages.
TS, don't listen. Mole here only harm!
Hello. You here are "Mole" advise. And they themselves tried to use it with a clogged sewer. It is suitable for prevention, but not for breaking through persistent blockages.
TS, don't listen. Mole here only harm!
Because of the Mole in the granules, the pipe also clogged in our country and did not guess right away. The effect is not the same as in the advertising of such funds. When I started using them, I thought the cable would no longer be needed. I also washed the pipe with soda and tried more expensive products, but if there is a strong blockage, you still have to clean it with a cable.
Because of the Mole in the granules, the pipe also clogged in our country and did not guess right away. The effect is not the same as in the advertising of such funds. When I started using them, I thought the cable would no longer be needed.I also washed the pipe with soda and tried more expensive products, but if there is a strong blockage, you still have to clean it with a cable.
Solving the problem taking into account the legislation
Each apartment building has a management company that must control the technical condition of all its systems.
Therefore, if an incomprehensible chemical (vinegar, for example) or sewer smell appears in the basement tier of the building, in the entrance, in the apartments of the lower floors, you should confidently contact the responsible authority.
The main thing is to first contact the Criminal Code (or the housing and communal services point at the house), then to the regulatory body. The last resort is Rospotrebnadzor. All complaints are recorded so that they have the force of evidence.
The inaction of public utilities can be a significant reason for appealing even to the prosecutor's office or the court. In this case, a copy of the appeal to the Criminal Code, drawn up according to a standard model and registered, will be a weighty document.
You can also attach to the application to the court and evidence of damage to personal property due to a leak, a breakthrough in the sewer, if it arose due to the failure of public utilities to fulfill their duties.
After eliminating the causes of stench in the basement, unpleasant sewer odors may be felt for some time. You should endure, trying as often as possible to ventilate the basement, into residential apartments on the lower floors.
Useful video
This video describes several reasons for the smell of sewage in the apartment, as well as ways to eliminate this problem.
Sewerage constantly clogged
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Where to go for help
Employees are required to respond quickly to the appeal, eliminate the cause of the breakthrough, clean the premises, and do not forget to replace leaking pipes.
Also, at the end of the work, disinfection is carried out after a breakthrough.
- The first step is to contact the company responsible for the house. At first, you can just call, even several times. If there is no reaction, you should go personally to the reception of the Criminal Code or the Housing Office, write a complaint. On the spot, a sample must be issued for the complaint document. Complaints must be registered, this can be useful in litigation due to a leak in the basement. You can also send an appeal by mail, registered mail with registration.
- A written complaint usually elicits a quick response. A team of masters leaves the place, removes the smell and the cause of its appearance.
- If the employees of the housing and communal services or the management company refuse to solve the problem, you need to go further - to the housing inspection or any other city regulatory body.
- A universal option that can be used when the management company is passive is Rospotrebnadzor. This organization also accepts written complaints and registers them.
A written appeal about a sewer problem should be written in business language, with an accurate indication of all the facts. The address, the time of appearance of the stench, and other data are indicated.
The complaint indicates where the appeal has already been sent, which company has not responded to the information.
What causes sewer blockage in a private house
Even the use of tools such as filter plugs and grates does not guarantee that the drain pipes in a private house will not become clogged. If all the debris is filtered out in the pipes, then grease and oil drops that are washed off the surface of the dishes accumulate on the inner surfaces of the pipes. These particles form a kind of plaques that completely clog the pipe and eventually form blood clots in the sewer pipes.
Sewer blockage scheme
Further draining will be very difficult, or the sewage will stop completely draining into the pit, because if hairs and various debris get in, the fat delays the passage of this dirt in the pipe. The cause of clogged pipes in a private house may be the ingress of some object. But more often it is a blockage, which is formed by organic and inorganic waste products of people's life processes. There are three ways to get out of the situation:
- chemical cleaning, using preparations that contain caustic soda;
- mechanical cleaning, using special tools that are designed for cleaning sewers;
- hydrodynamic cleaning, that is, cleaning the sewer, using high pressure.
Whatever the sewerage system in a private house: plastic or metal, the first step is to disassemble the siphons that are below the sink. And you need to do this in the kitchen and in the bathroom. The bathroom has two siphons. One under the sink and directly under the container where people wash. The siphon is designed to prevent the “aromas” of sewage from the sewer pipe from entering the house.
It acts as a barrier in which debris and fat deposits are immediately deposited. The siphon must be thoroughly washed and reconnected to the pipe. Rinsing with boiling water and soda can only help if the blockage occurs only in the siphon. The alkaline solution breaks down well and washes off the fat layer. For 3 liters of warm water, you need to take 4 tablespoons of soda.
If these methods did not help, then it is necessary to move on to more significant methods.
Renovation on the ground floor and sewer problems
The essence of the problem is as follows - if any foreign objects or improperly mounted risers with nodes that greatly reduce the speed of water passage enter the sewer riser, there is a possibility of a blockage in the basement. A clogged riser will stop letting water through, which will begin to rise up the pipe. Sewer drains will begin to look for an exit to the outside, and this exit for them will be the first floor, as a rule, this is a residential apartment. All dirty tricks will climb out through the toilet, flooding the entire apartment. The consequences of such a disaster are very deplorable. This is a new apartment renovation with large investments and disinfection.
How to protect yourself and avoid sewer problems?
Go ahead! And consider SCHEME 3, where a sewer tee and "ANTIKRAT" are already involved (you can find this thing on the Internet - you bought it yourself. This is a kind of valve designed to prevent rats from entering the sewer. But we will use it a little differently purpose). Perhaps someone will say that this is NOT COMPLETELY LEGAL, but I will answer from the standpoint of reason: “Let it be not entirely legal, but I will not swim in feces due to the fault of comrades from the ZhEK, who overlooked something. Let them swim. This is certainly fairer than the option of my voyage and subsequent repair. ”
In this variant with “Antikrys”, if the sewer is clogged, you will not be flooded, but the basement will float. The lid and everything will flow to where it began to rise.
Well, now SCHEME 4.If sorting out a sewer riser is a whole problem and how to get out of the situation? Make a sidebar and repeat the principle shown in the figure above. All of these components are called and are freely available.
Sewer problems on the first floor
Renovation of an apartment in Moscow on the ground floor with a sewage problem - here we did a similar method, but got a little more confused. In the basement, no bend / branch is visible - it is hidden in the floor of the ceiling.
Here is a video from this object
Various objects can accidentally get into the riser: rags, diapers, sticks and metal pins that can stand up in the pipe. Many people understand that the reasons for getting such objects can be different. These are inadequate neighbors from any floor along your riser, who use the sewer not only for natural needs, but also as a garbage chute, draining everything that got there. Also, the cause of clogging may be the usual inattention of a person pouring a bucket of dirty water into the toilet. In such water, there may be a floor rag, which can get stuck in a pipe in a problem area of \u200b\u200bthe sewer line laid in the basement. An improperly installed sewer pipe can cause permanent harm to the inhabitants of the first floors.
And here is a video on a similar topic from another channel
Here, of course, they were smart, but everything could have been done more competently and more aesthetically. Such problems with sewerage lead to a complete renovation of the apartment on the ground floor. And the author of the video is right - let the public utilities solve the problem!
Sewerage problems - statistics from the words of a housing office employee
According to one woman, her name is Margarita Viktorovna, the problem of sewerage for the first floors is very relevant. Margarita Viktorovna works in the ZhEK and responds to calls in connection with the bays of apartments. She just shared her practice with me. She works in the Novogireevo district. It turns out that among the usual floods, there are quite a lot of challenges related to the flooding of the first floor with sewage water. What can I say, even my neighbors, and they live on the first one, somehow got into such a deplorable situation. Also, in our practice, there are cases when a problem with sewerage in an apartment building entailed repair of apartments due to flooding. In such situations, you need to break your head so that this incident does not happen again. Problem with sewerage in an apartment building
Renovation of apartments on the ground floor and video filming
At the time of the video filming, there was no precisely worked out method “how to deal with sewage”. These were only developments, but now a completely adequate and feasible idea has been born on how to eliminate sewage problems and avoid apartment repairs. On our YouTube channel, this video was even put up for discussion, many craftsmen shared their experience, expressed their thoughts and assumptions, but the solution to the problem of repairing apartments in connection with the flood from the sewerage was born by me personally.
This idea will be implemented in the near future during the renovation of an apartment in Otradnoye, but we will talk about the essence later ....
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